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Posted by SWE54  |
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Why are we not racing parallel to the real races anymore...?
Yeas I know the NZ was a real race but a lot was missed. The Middle Sea Race is on and we are not in it. A lot of solo/twohand races was missed like the mini transat.. A lot of races has just gone by without any notice. This is one reason I look at other sites for racing and if SOL wants new sailors I think it's a must. All the made up, backyard races are just fine but I think real races should be a priority. This is not as attractive as it ones was... |
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Posted by SWE54 |
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Why does the SOL Ocean Race start nov 6th when it starts nov 5th everywhere else..?
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Posted by RainbowChaser  |
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SWE54 - Usually a month in advance of every month a draft calendar is published in the Race Calendar forum with LOTS of empty spaces in it for folks to make proposals. That is one way to be reminded/catch some of the SOL favourites in time. Each calendar thread by month also has attached to it a list of all the races that have been raced in previous years.
I have also published a SOL Racing Year chart in the Race Calendar forum, with a view,again, to making sure we don't miss out - and, as always, asking for input! You will see from the Race Proposals forum that there are a lot of yet-to-be-raced races that have been proposed by SOLers. SO.. the aim of the SOL monthly calendars (and maybe you can help!) is to combine SOL favourites PLUS real races PLUS soler-designs PLUS other specials to make a race calendar that appeals to those who like ocean races, who like short races, who like archipelago races, who like weekday races and who like weekend races all generously scattered around the globe!! 
I am not a sailor in real life, for various reasons, hence every draft calendar I produce is always asking for input/suggestions! Finally, the Sailonline World Race will be starting at the right time! --- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2011-10-23 14:18:20 --- |
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Posted by SWE54 |
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Sorry but I'm not happy with that. If it is up to the sailor what races are to be sailed then it's obvious that the real races are not a priority, and as it has developed it sometimes feels like it is a playground for a selected few. This is not what it once was. I will not continue my membership and will also look elsewhere for real races.
Best of luck. |
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Posted by Jeroen  |
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Hello SWE54,
Sorry to hear from a early SOL sailor and a good friend that you feel this way. Off course providing shadow races of actual big races is the origin of Sailonline and we will continue to provide those. We provide a lot of different races and that is why we ask user input to fill up the gaps. This is why there are now also a lot of fictional races around. But most of them even have origins in real races. They are there because we provide way more races then we had in the early days. If you feel we need to step up the classics then join us to make sure we get even more of those back in. I provide feedback and am admin of Sailonline.
hometown: Groningen, The Netherlands |
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Posted by SWE54 |
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Hi Jeroen,
I would gladly try to help if I could and had the time to spare but I'm already over my head as it is in real life. I have more than once asked about big real races and often wondered why we are not in them even when the races are known and talked about in the chat. Also races we use to do. A lot of races was missed this year and no one seems to care. It's a bit disappointing since this was one of the reasons to use SOL. And another question: Inport races? Are there any this time? |
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Posted by Jeroen |
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Hi SWE54,
A shame you can not contribute due to time constraints. I certainly know the feeling and try to cram sol in between when ever I can as well. We do care about the big classics though, like I said before they where and still are the basis if Sailonline. Things did however become more difficult over time and we have to tread very lightly with some of these races. Big sponsors and our competitors have proven to be very happy to slap us on the wrist. You may remember the Fastnet madness we have gone through. It won't stop us but certainly made it a lot tougher. As far as In-port races, no plans for those have been made so far, but we can always throw in a few if there is a demand. I will put my efforts on running the main race as I am real busy myself as well. --- Last Edited by Jeroen Tiel at 2011-10-24 20:59:47 --- I provide feedback and am admin of Sailonline.
hometown: Groningen, The Netherlands |
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Posted by Svein  |
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I interpret your "objections" as "too few emulations of/simultaneous runs with" IRL-races, frustration added by "lack of time/more important things to do" as well as by "increasingly tougher competition". IMO a bit of "sour grapes" to turn that against "SOL not being as SOL used to be".
Basically sad to say good bye to a sharp competitor, but good riddance AFAIC, and good luck! Now, whether correspondence with IRL-races has been a major objective of SOL is not in my database, and has not (AFAIK) been explicitly announced by SOL-gods. I've been wondering why a race "in the archives" i.e. already planned ones has priority over IRL and other races, but I personally get no added pleasure from racing against IRL-boats (maybe even au contraire). IMO it's a total fallacy to imagine that simultaneity with IRL-races is any indicator of skill or otherwise in the real or virtual world. SOL is a developing organism and RC together with the "reference group" runs SOL with the occasional course correction of the GODs. BTW - I also feel the pressure from the skills of newcomers (old and new) - it's getting more and more difficult to reach the podium. However, all don't participate in SOL to win a podium, but for whatever reason they have. Best regards Svein |
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Posted by SWE54 |
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Svein,
You are not getting rid of me that easy and besides you are wrong. I'm not in int to win, I'm in it to learn, understand and maintain a level of skills to be used in real life, on a real boat. And if the competition is getting harder it is just a good thing. If I am not first I learn something. Due to little time over for VR sailing I want real races and as there are very few on SOL I will look elsewhere, it's just as simple as that. I would like to have them here but they are not. I'm am the kind of person who is speaking up when I think things are not as the should be. This is such a case. It's a bit disappointing as this is probably the best simulator. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. There are no fingers pointing anywhere, just don't like the way it is developing right now. |
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Posted by RainbowChaser |
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Just for information, thus far this year, the real races SOL has run (that weren't being run by Virtual Regatta or ManyPlayers) are as follows:
KEY: SOL Buddied Races races at the same time as the real race a real race course at a different time JANUARY Tasman Double (Syd-Hob-Syd) Roslagen Sea Race FEBRUARY SSANZ Round North Island Race 2011(into March) MARCH Suedsee Rund APRIL There and Back Again (course of Duecento Auckland-Tauranga 2011 MAY Aland Sea Race JUNE Texel Race 2011 JULY Tall Ships - Waterford to Greenock Gotland Rund 2011 SSANZ B&G Simrad 50 Tall Ships - Greenock to Lerwick Tall Ships - Lerwick to Stavanger AUGUST Tall Ships - Stavanger to Halmstad SSANZ B&G Simrad 60; Tall Ships Culture 1 Race to Mackinac SEPTEMBER The Vineyard Race SSANZ B&G Simrad 100 Bohusracet _______________ --- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2011-10-25 15:47:53 --- |
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Patricks Test
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Marstrand to Cowes 2025
We invite you to another race, which will kick off the third quarter of our ARCH series. We'll set off from Marstrand, Sweden, which, along with Skagen, Denmark, marks the line commonly recognised as the border separating the Baltic Sea from the North Sea. The 650nm route will take our Ripitide 50 across the North Sea and the English Channel to Cowes, England. Watch out for the fast ferries crossing the Channel from Calais to Dover 😊.
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Nantucket Sprint 2025
Welcome to Nantucket, from whence Herman Melville’s Cap’n Ahab sailed round The Horn into the northern Pacific Ocean to hunt the gray whale - whose migrations are celebrated elsewhere in SOL’s Q4 schedule - he never to return. And whaling too, as the 19th C progressed, like Ahab disappeared from Nantucket as the harbour silted up and mainland Massachusetts whaling stations benefited from rail connections. But beach life, yachting and nostalgia has rescued the island from oblivion, so to celebrate leisure, SOL gives you the Nantucket Sprint - 25nm in 29er_XX’s from east of Tuckernuck Island across the sound to a finish just inside the mouth of the harbour. Enjoy!
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Puil's Practice Palaver
Nearly there; only 2500nm to go, round the Horn and up the Red Sea to Suez into what will more than likely be more headwinds for this sixth leg of our African circumnavigation, to be followed in September by a final sneaky dash up the canal back to where we started all those months ago. We’ll be sailing a not entirely appropriate-for-upwind-work 60ft Trimaran!
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Gulf of St Lawrence - test - Mirek
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Stefan's Duck Pond
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Trapped Camel
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Caravanserai
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Patrick's Playpen
Welcome to the legendary "Westcoaster," a race that has tested sailors for over 50 years. Spanning 435 nautical miles, this iconic journey takes racers from Melbourne, across the formidable Bass Strait, and around Tasmania's rugged west coast to the finish line in Hobart. Organized by the Ocean Racing Club of Victoria, the Westcoaster is renowned for its challenging conditions and adventurous spirit. This year, our SOLers will tackle the course in the swift and capable First 47.7, a yacht launched by Beneteau in 2000, built for speed and endurance in long ocean races. Get ready for an exhilarating ride in one of Australia’s most celebrated yacht races!
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Mirek's Mess & Canteen
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Antarctica 1 of 3
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Flinders Island TIMED Race 2024
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Tasman Double 2023 - Hobart to Sydney
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John's Test Zone
It's time to test your ocean racing skills in a variety of weathers as we head the 6400 NM between Hong Kong and Auckland in a fast Super Maxi 100. We'll be heading from a northern summer to a southern winter so keep plenty of cold weather gear and warm rum on board!
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calm's Practice Race
Last raced in 2021, we return to Boston for another race to Newport. And just like in 2021, the chosen boat is once again the speedy R/P 66. This is a TIMED race so pick your winds wisely and see how quickly you can complete this 132nm run! For reference, the winning time in 2021 was 6:12:28.
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ZONA DE PRUEBA DE MANUEL
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San Sebastian to La Rochelle 2021
Once again, our SOL race will be shared with a group of Polish sailors, representing one of the stages of their Virtual Training Cruise around Europe. 171 nm in Delphia 47s across the not always calm Bay of Biscay from San Sebastian to La Rochelle will undoubtedly be one to test their skills. Welcome/Witajcie and we wish you all fair winds.
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Aland Sea TIMED Race
Norrtalje Segelsallskap, 70km NE of Stockholm was founded in 1920, and time was when the society’s season opened with a challenging offshore race from the club line off Flaten island at the mouth of the long and narrow Norrtaljeviken, out onto a triangular course around the Aland Sea, to finish at Simpnas slightly to the north on Bjorko island - some 78nm in total. A fine race that SOL, being from these parts, ran annually up until 2013. Last run in autumn 2018, we return here to race the course again in the form a TIMED RUN in spanking new Club Swan 50s.
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Bimmer's Test Zone
What about a speedy X-362 380nm race in the waters off S America, just to blow cobwebs away!!
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