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Posted by ShamrockPirate ![]() |
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Hawk
As I have also considered getting students involved, I thought of a few "variables" specific to the racing/learning curve, especially in a tricky race with rapid tacking angles in this race: 1) If you are doing this is in a classroom setting, consider having all your competitors go TWA=0 at the end of class. Yes, they won't be able to get a podium spot in the race but they also won't be inclined to "stay up all night to wait for the new Wx and make the perfect rounding". Setting multiple DCs for overnight routing is hard to figure in the early learning phase. You could just start up again the next day and everyone resumes where they were. All have the same weather and you can teach more easily. 2) Certainly use the customized boat list to remove the clutter of competition. Maybe include a few veterans/leaders so the students can get a feel for the strategy. This will have to be tempered with different weather after the initial starting session is over. Hmmmm, maybe get a few veterans to race WITH you (and go TWA=0 when you do). Give it some flavor with a few SOLers not in your timezone. I'm game! You can also figure out your OWN podium from these results. 3) Could use one of the nearly empty chatrooms to prompt discussion. I have used the Mandarin room (at least that's what I call it) to have chat outside the regular, and often busy, English room. SailTalk Chat is probably not busy during actual racing time as well. I LOVE that you are doing this with kids and have started to see if I can generate any interest for the same here where I live. Would be fun to have a competition between schools!!! Well Done! SP |
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Posted by RainbowChaser ![]() |
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Hawk - yeps until a race is run the status is that of practice, i.e., all commands (including stopping) are manual.
As this race has been open a few days I am now going to archive it until we race it. Don't forget to let me know what date you want for it!! |
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Posted by Hawk54 ![]() |
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@SP - excellent ideas you has come up with!! I might try to find some pupils who would like to have a mentor.
@RC - We start school tomorrow, and we will discuss a startdate - I think we will practice the route for some time, but late september/early october are good possibilities. I am thinking about a "stay in school for a night"-arrangement, so that we can race 100%... lets see. I´ll come back with a date within a week. |
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Posted by NZL_PaulR ![]() |
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Racing against another school may not be exciting. From my memory, I really did not know the kids at another school at all.
So I suggest within a class, make up crews of 3 or 4 to discuss tactics, angles, VMG etc so you may have a few teams competing against each other. Drawing the names from a hat is a good idea as well. Google Earth will add in geography and geology, navigation, sunrise & sunset maths, navigation and astromony. Sleep over, on / off watches; think of sailing ships, alarm drills, gun drills, anchoring, blocks & pulleys to move heavy loads across the playground. At Boy Scouts, there was a game to burn off energy where we ran from side to side, up or down the meeting hall, one hall side was "Man the Guns" where we all ran to upon that command given out. Similarily it will keep all your children busy!! Sounds like a great idea, well worth it. Good Luck!! If it breaks, it's not strong enough! |
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Posted by Hawk54 ![]() |
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Paul! More great ideas - I could make 3-4 classrooms into "boats", and scheduals are to be made - captain elected, and if course are to be changed, a crewmember are to be at the computer! A lot of possibilities here. Just bring on more ideas, Gentlemen - and women.
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Posted by NZL_PaulR ![]() |
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Borrow some older lifejackets, and like musical chairs, one less life jacket than needed to eliminate one person. So a race to get to life jacket but also correctly fitted, straps / ties all done. Different styles of jackets will help add confusion, also having incorrect sizes, buoyancy aids vs proper life jackets confusion. Then swimming wearing a life jacket & all clothing, liferaft in the pool.
Flare demonstration and torch signalling at night, make an angling device, screw / bolt a 180 degree protractor to a 300mm ruler, add string & a weight; measure stars, moon, planets at evening & morning nautical twilight = mathematics, work out your position. Stars are just "lighthouses in the sky", without towers. Walk along a beach at night, aligning navigation buoys and beacons; measure angles with a hand bearing compass; compare to angles observed using hand rules & hand made angles; compare night-time results with daytime actuals; Draw a sketch of what they can see at night & compare in daylight. Drawings of stars, constellations; moon's face. Meals as in old sailing ships, of hard tack, weavels and tassle stew. (Tassle stew = google and enjoy the monthly feast???) Use worm sweets but only brown ones, Butch fricthagel(?) small sugar white balls to be "mould" on bread. Build funnelators (funnel powered by surgical rubber tubes) and fire water filled ballons at each other or a target, Targets are boring and static. Combine with the running game as suggested earlier, man the lifeboats, hoist the sails etc. Sleep in hammocks. Land yachts have less drownings. Marine Side lights are the same as traffic lights. Build a flying fox using lashings to make an A frame. Use a lead line in swimming pool to measure depths = Read "Mark Twain" US novel. Should be enough to exhaust a lot of children, quickly. Use Rum essence in drinks. Save the real rum for yourself. You will need it!! --- Last Edited by NZL_PaulR at 2011-08-08 20:28:26 --- --- Last Edited by NZL_PaulR at 2011-08-08 20:29:11 --- If it breaks, it's not strong enough! |
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Posted by Hawk54 ![]() |
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Well, your latest proposals are to much for my pupils Paul. I will keep you informed about what we decide to do....
Thank you for your great interest in this idea ![]() |
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Posted by NZL_PaulR ![]() |
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I have used a Radio Controlled model in a cradle mounted on a rotating disc e.g. "lazy susan" as is common in Chineese restrauants with an electic fan. I cradle has the ability to heel and now turn.
Learning about wind flow, trimming heeling was easy as I could touch the exact points of the sails on the model as could the students. Have a "Pirates of the Carribean" movie themed sleep overnight. Show the film first (or parts of it!!) If it breaks, it's not strong enough! |
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Posted by NZL_PaulR ![]() |
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What age are we talking for your school children?? If it breaks, it's not strong enough! |
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Posted by Hawk54 ![]() |
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14 years old.
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